frecklegirl wrote:
But I mean, can we get real here? Maaya is an anime singer, of the idol type, who most Japanese people haven't even heard of. Why in the world should we even expect or care about chart numbers?
I will say it again, the average Japanese person has no idea who Maaya Sakamoto is.
Frecklegirl you are one for debates, aren't you

you seem to monger it wherever you go.
As for 'can we get real' chart numbers are indeed an indicator of popularity. Whether you deny it or not, entering the top 20 or indeed the top 10 like Maaya does requires at least some sort of moving power outside of anime. How often do seiyuu get such high ranking numbers. No one is saying she isn't limited to anime but it's just the fact that she's not just solid otaku fans.
To get number one you only need to sell 2,000 copies first week these days - which shows you how awful the music industry is. The bigger artists are getting bigger numbers of course - Utada Hikaru's latest single got number one with 156,000 ish.
But oppositely, even if sales are so poor - Oricon chart numbers show popularity because you don't sell no CD's if no one is buying. Of course it doesn't show exposure to the general population but no one's saying that - but it is a fairly reliable indicator of where Maaya stands. And to deny it as such is to completely void the reason Ayumi Hamasaki fans and Koda Kumi fans get so worked up over it

You get prestiege from your Oricon ranking. Especially if it breaks top ten.
You don't need to 'say it again' as we all know the average Japanese people have no idea who she is - we come in contact with this numerous times :lol: . And no one is saying 'omg she is t3h amazing popular and stuffz' apart from a few foreign fans who have no idea about the jpop industry.
To call her an idol is pretty poor :lol: she may have begun as an idol but typically idol definitions are people who have no involvement in the production of their music apart from vocals/use looks not talent. Maaya has consistantly moved away from that, but idol is where she started from, I'd say it was only from easy listening+ that she really got away. Idol elements in her career are balenced out with her other works and involvements. But really, I'm only arguing semantics, idol by name but not by nature would be a preference.
I don't know when idol got to be such a dirty word
Argh, I have to leave for Tokyo in two minutes.
But this:
Maaya is nothing like Bonnie Pink and Shiina Ringo. Do you know why?
Because to put them in the same sentence is hilarious :lol:
And I guess that will demonstrate your point to a T that Maaya's image is a problem. But who suggested they were alike....?
argh we always end up arguing...oh frecklegirl, you wound me with your arguements :lol:
EDIT: ha ha I dunno why I always get so flustered when I end up in debates but I can never remember my points by the time people have replied and then I end up cancelling myself out XD XD XD damn it!! hate them ha ha
EDIT 2: Just thought, Ayumi Hamasaki used to be given pieces of music from the composers who would do the music for her lyrics. She'd choose her favourite and then try to fit the lyrics to it. Maybe Maaya does that...